FINALLY some Babies

FINALLY some Babies

Postby Bjorn » Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:50 pm

Well went to check on my snakes this morning and what did I find a little mess and some beautiful baby Madagascan Ground Boas. I have been trying to breed them for a while and finally got it right. Well they did anyway! I am so chuffed as these are my first boas I have ever bred due to them being the only pair I have ever had.

Such a pleasure to come and see babies and not have to worrie about eggs this time.

Anyway I had five in total and two slugs. Not a bad clutch size for this species.

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These are some nice colours but will wait to see when they shed. One looks like a lot of purple browns and pink. One or two others have cream colours.

Man I am so happy.
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Re: FINALLY some Babies

Postby froot » Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:57 pm

Excellent Bjorn, congratulations, man you must be extatic, also a decent clutch and nice big babies. So cool to have someone else breed this species.
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Re: FINALLY some Babies

Postby Bushviper » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:00 pm

That is great. These are extremely rare snakes and to see more of them being bred is great. This is not the season for them to be breeding though.

Where did the parents come from?
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Re: FINALLY some Babies

Postby Bushbaby » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:28 pm

Ah awesome!!! That's great!! One day when I'm big (and have a lot more cage space) I really want to get myself some of these!
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Re: FINALLY some Babies

Postby insaniac » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:48 pm

Wow ! Congratulations Man !

Love the darker one, you don't see many of those around...
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Re: FINALLY some Babies

Postby Bjorn » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:52 pm

Thanks guys,

They are from the original JHB zoo stock which were bred in captivity. I worked the breeding season for them with the dates I was told they were born from and others were bred. I have all the dates of her breeding and a little behavior logged. She ate just last week which was strange and the last two days she was very active trying to get out here cage.
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Re: FINALLY some Babies

Postby Mitton » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:58 pm

Very cool Bjorn, congrats. It's great that more of these are bred.
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Re: FINALLY some Babies

Postby Bushviper » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:13 pm

Did JHB zoo get them from Transvaal snake park or Monte Casino? I was not aware that they had bred them either.

The genetics are rather restricted in South Africa and importing new genes is out of the question. It would be nice if these were different.
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Re: FINALLY some Babies

Postby hammies » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:45 pm

How much will they sell for?
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Re: FINALLY some Babies

Postby Snakes4Africa » Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:49 pm

Congratulations Bjorn, well done Bjorns snakes! I have given up trying to pin down seasons for breeding, especially live-bearers. I have reached a conclusion that they drop babies exactly when they are ready!! The fact that they were born live proves that you did something (or rather EVERYTHING) right. It will be interesting to see if they breed again next year at the same time, although often these snakes that have such big babies miss a year.
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Re: FINALLY some Babies

Postby Bjorn » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:36 pm

Thanks again,

BV sorry was wrong your right with where they came from. I got them from Monte Casino and they were from the original stock from Traansvaal snake park. I was assured they were from different bloodlines. I have 2 pairs and they all look different from each other and were born different years. That doesn't mean they weren't from the same parents. I am assuming they would keep good records though. I have the DOB's and they all had ID numbers.

I haven't come up with a price just yet but it will be better then the retail US price of $800-1000. These guys are rare! I will definately be keeping one for myself. They will also only be for sale once I am happy they are doing everything and are established.

Why would it be so difficult to import new bloodlines? I am hopeful to get some new blood.

I recorded them mating on the 1 Jan 2008.

Pitty I didn't get an albino. I could have retired LOL
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Re: FINALLY some Babies

Postby Mitton » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:31 pm

Bjorn wrote:Pitty I didn't get an albino. I could have retired LOL
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Re: FINALLY some Babies

Postby Deon » Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:47 pm

Excellent Bjorn!!! Well done....
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Re: FINALLY some Babies

Postby Bushviper » Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:56 pm

Well importing is not allowed because they are CITES app 1 and the paperwork usually expires before they can be shipped unless they are going to a zoo or scientific institute. When they are captive bred it is technically possible but the chances that you can get that right is still almost nil.

TSP had two bloodlines going. One is the local one and the other was a mixed in with a male from Houston zoo and was not related.

Those should be micro chipped because I know they were sticklers for keeping the stud book on track.
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Re: FINALLY some Babies

Postby Bjorn » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:25 pm

I was assured they are all different bloodlines and have the parent codes from where mine came. Not to sure how trust worth it is. I got first option and did pick mine from a list and chose the most unrelated ones. They are miro chipped.

My exporter says he can get cites 1 exported from time to time and cites papers my side took a week last time. When the time comes I will give it a shot and hope for the best.
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