Burmballs...

[CarlaSmit87]

I don't think there is a defenite answer for that.. It could be inbetween, as small as the boa, big as the burm or it could turn out to be a huge like when you cross a lion and a tiger and it is bigger than both

[TonyK]

Carla please put me on the list for some babies .

[CarlaSmit87]

anytime but it's still a few years to go! And then the big "if" the ballpython male will be interested in the burm female

[fredsmith]

The Burmball is a good looker, but the Balltic is just something else...

[CoN]

Here is a good read
http://www.pireptiles.co.uk/theburmball.htm

[Jaco Smit]

Another Cool Hybrid is the Green Tree and Carpet. I saw one in this Vid.
Very cool looking lil Guy.
Again SnakeBytes ( Lovit...!!!)

Maybe You have seen him or heard of him.

Padro Carpandro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY5_kTMJGWk

[F1refly]

Awesome Snake. Now I just need to get ahold of one of those Burmballs. A huge snake with the Ball Pythons curling up defense. Seriously cool.

[CarlaSmit87]

Look what I found... A list of known python hybrids

Hybrids of Ball Python
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Carpall = Ball Python X Jungle Carpet Python
Car-Bomb = Ball Python X Coastal Carpet Python (Jag-Sib)
Ball X Blood
BurmBall = Burmese X Ball
Borneo Short Tailed python x Ball
(Borneo Short Tailed Python x Ball) X Ball
Angolan X Ball
Wall = Woma X Ball Python

Hybrids of Carpet Pythons
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Carpondro = Carpet Python X Green Tree Python
Jungle Carpet X Retic
Diamond x Jungle Carpet = DxJ
Diamond x Coastal Carpet = DxC
Diamond X Bredls
Diamond X (Bredls X Coastal) [Jaguar]
Diamond x Inland (metcalfei)
Bredls x Inland (metcalfei)
Bredls x Jungle Carpet
Bredls X Coastal [Jaguar]
Bredls X (Bredls X Coastal) [Jaguar]
West Papuan X (Bredls X Coastal ) [Jaguar]
Coastal x Inland (metcalfei)
Jungle x Water Python (Liasis fuscus)
Jungle x Coastal Carpet = JxC
Coastal x Macklots
Jungle X (Coastal X Macklots) = Junglot
Jungle x Tanimbar(nauta)
Woma x WP Carpet = Coma
Macklots x Carpet = Carplot
Macklots X Jungle = Junglot
(Macklots X Jungle) X Jungle
(Macklots X Carpet) X (IJ x Coastal Jaguar Carpet) = Jaglot by NERD
Diamond X (Macklots X Jungle)= Dicarplot by NERD
IJ Carpet (WP) X Ball = Carpall AKA Ballpet,Barpet
Carpet (various ssp.) x Green Tree = Carpondro
includes: Coastal X GTP
Diamond X Coastal X GTP
Carpet Python X Scrub Python
(IJ Carpet X Sorong GTP) X Coastal Jaguar Carpet= Jagpondro by Yasser Moustafa 2008


Hybrids of Burmese
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Borneo Bateaters = Burmese Python X Reticulated Python (Python m. bivittatus x Python reticulatus)
Burmese Rock = Burmese X Rock
Burm x African Rock
Burm X Ball
Burm x Retic = Bateater
Burm x (Retic x Burm)
Burm x Tiger Retic
Retic x (Retic X Burm) = Jungle Retic

Kinghorni x Coastal
Kinghorni x Jungle
Kinghorni x fuscus by Royal Melbourne Zoo 1978
Moluccan x Barneck
Moluccan x Coastal
Southern x Barneck
Barneck x (Diamond X Coastal) by John Huntress 2008

West Papuan X GTP by Chriss Rouille 2005

Borneo STP X Red Blood
Borneo STP x Black Blood
Black Blood x Red Blood


([Python m. bivittatus x Python reticulatus] x Python m.bivittatus])
([Python m. bivittatus x Python reticulatus] x Python reticulatus)

[rolandslf]

That list as impressive and long as it is, just goes to show how far behind we actually are.
How many of those crosses have been done in South Africa?

I would like to add that although our philosophy is that our hobby does not revolve around money, these Hybrids fetch top dollar, and in many cases they cost more than pure bred animals.

[Jaco Smit]

Supply and demand...
You are 101% correct Rolandslf.
And Carla Smit. Freaking great work on that list.
Awesome maybe we should take that list and add photos for the snake keepers.
It might encourage them and a bigger market will slowly form.

the thing with morphs and hybrids are that people are more likely to find out about the snakes when it makes headlines and stuff like it is more in the face of the public.
Get them exited and the market might sky-rocket. There is just to little people (in ratio) educated on and interested in reptiles.

[CarlaSmit87]

Okay lets see how many pics we can get..

Superball, which is a Ball Python (Python regius) x Borneo Short-tail/Blood Python (Python breitensteini)





F2 Superball, which is a Superball x Superball



Angolan Ball, which is a Ball Python (Python regius) x Angolan Python (Python anchietae)




Carpondro, which is a Carpet Python (Morelia spilota sp.) x Green Tree Python (Morelia viridis)





Bateater, which is a Reticulated Python (Python reticulatus) x Burmese Python (Python molurus bivittatus)





Jungle, which is a Reticulated Python (Python reticulatus) x Bateater





Cateater, which is a Burmese Python (Python molurus bivittatus) x African Rock Python (Python sebae)





Emerald Tree Boa (Corallus caninus) x Amazon Tree Boa (Corallus hortulanus)






Carpall


Wall ( Ball x Woma )




*Images http://www.darksidereptiles.com

[rolandslf]

Some really nice looking snakes there.

[Spider]

Some very nice looking snakes. But I was wondering wether these snakes don't grow up with a lot of health related problems?

[Bushviper]

The only hybrid which is from a wild caught parent is the Tree boa cross. These do pop up from time to time in shipments from South America. The Carpet x Diamond intergrades also occur in the wild.

Some of the hybrids do not do well. The burmese x african rock pythons often have defects and die. The L. fuscus x M spilotes had a cleft palate and other crosses often lay infertile eggs or die full term in the egg.

[herpitologica]

Just out of interest what sort of care would a hybrid need?What i'm trying to say is if you cross two snakes with two different husbandry requirements,which one do you you cater for?
Nice looking snakes by the way,getting my mind working on what can be crossed...king cobra x retic?I know it can't happen but imagine?