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Juvenile B.armata

Postby armata » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:07 pm

A guy from Exeter University UK visited deHoop las january and manage to photo this juvenile Bitis armata. See how bright the markings are, they fade in the 2nd or third year.
Photo - Kevin Palmer

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Re: Juvenile B.armata

Postby Bushviper » Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:30 pm

Wow that is pretty. Are all the babies this colour or is this unusual?
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Re: Juvenile B.armata

Postby armata » Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:43 pm

BV - all babies are this colour, some even brighter! they are also quite large 120-130cm; small litters 2-4 is usualy.
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Re: Juvenile B.armata

Postby xerophak » Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:00 am

have any proof to see the B.armata of 120cm?
I doubt much to grow much, much.

and you , 've seen some personally B. armata so great? is incredible!

I think the longest armata 50-60cm top to bottom.

if they reach 120cm, will now be my favorite Bitis sp!
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Re: Juvenile B.armata

Postby xerophak » Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:06 am

armata,please, I dream only see a photo of that size, only one pic!

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Re: Juvenile B.armata

Postby armata » Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:41 pm

Well, for a start my largest adult so far is 34cm; I believe it is possible to 'boost' them to over 50cm in captivity, but this is not good and shortens their lives.
I have a number of females I recapture regularly and some that are gravid I palpate to count the embyos; I have never counted more than four so far. Peak birth is Dec/Jan the one photographed by Kevin is a neonate and he estimated to be a max of 150mm; the size of the head in relation to the rest of the body indicates a neo. It was photographed in situ, i.e. he did not handle it. The photo below is a DOR neo from February 07. Small litters and large babies is typical for some of the Dwarf Bitis.

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Re: Juvenile B.armata

Postby xerophak » Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:37 pm

armata, sorry
here in spain is not always count in mm tale in centimeters,
So are 12cm,
here understood as 1 meter and 20 centimeters = 120
forgiveness was just a lot of confusion in my bad English ...


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Re: Juvenile B.armata

Postby Loslappie » Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:38 am

Armata, have you encountered them any where else besides De Hoop?
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Re: Juvenile B.armata

Postby Westley Price » Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:41 am

I'm enjoying all the Bitis pics armata.

I'll add some of my own from over the weekend ;) Those striking markings are beautiful! I hadnt seen it before. Good observation
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Re: Juvenile B.armata

Postby armata » Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:21 pm

We have had one specimen from Gansbaai in 2004, incorrectly identified as a berg adder.
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Re: Juvenile B.armata

Postby Loslappie » Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:31 pm

Gansbaai I can understand, as it is fairly close to De Hoop.
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Re: Juvenile B.armata

Postby Rob » Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:53 am

Lovely colours. TP do you ever find adults with any remnants of this orange? Do they ever have any brown on them?
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Re: Juvenile B.armata

Postby armata » Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:05 pm

Yes, some of the adults have brown markings, usually seen best in good sunlight, but never as bright as the neos; well havn't found one yet anyway.
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Re: Juvenile B.armata

Postby Trayton » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:25 pm

Wow!

Very interesting post!Rob I'm sure once TP succesfully breeds and releases all his babies back into the wild he'll spare a couple for selective breeding ;) ...and at that, i await a comment from goose in regards to pickling them...
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Re: Juvenile B.armata

Postby Mongoose » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:24 pm

Trayton, the only thing I have in mind to pickle now is you and I'll take my DNA tissue from you know where! And believe me, I will use formalin and set you in the most embarrassing way possible.
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