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Interesting dwarf adder

Postby michael » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:55 am

Im sure it wont take the resident experts to long to guess this snakes identity. Hope you enjoy.

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Re: Interesting dwarf adder

Postby Wolf777 » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:51 am

Bitis albanica? I don't know my dwarf Bitis that well.
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Re: Interesting dwarf adder

Postby Westley Price » Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:20 pm

I am still deciding between armata and albanica. It's a tough call.
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Re: Interesting dwarf adder

Postby Eyelash » Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:28 pm

I'll go for B.albanica...?
Is this guy a captive snake or was he released again ?
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Re: Interesting dwarf adder

Postby Rob » Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:34 pm

Don't you people pay attention when Tony posts?

Its Bitis armata for me. Any day of the week.

A locality would settle it.
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Re: Interesting dwarf adder

Postby armata » Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:41 pm

Its B.armata. B.albanica has much less reduced 'horns' and virtually never any reddish markings.

Yes Michael the location would of course be of much interest to me, you can PM me. I am particularly interested if it is a west coast specimen, as I have yet to find one there and desparetly need samples.
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Re: Interesting dwarf adder

Postby Wolf777 » Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:55 pm

Thanks for the positive ID, still got a lot to learn.
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Re: Interesting dwarf adder

Postby michael » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:35 pm

B.armata hmm? When i took the pics i also thought albanica. I took the pics in for positive ID and was told it was a rubida. As soon as i track down the correct locality data i will PM you Tony.
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Re: Interesting dwarf adder

Postby Westley Price » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:38 pm

Definitely not rubida.

If I had to narrow it down I'd also say armata.

The picture below belongs to Tony Phelps from a topic here on the forum.

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It's a lot more vividly marked, but you can definitely see the resemblance.
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Re: Interesting dwarf adder

Postby armata » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:43 pm

If it is indeed still in captivity a ventral count could settle it. B.rubida can vary in colour throughout its range but I have yet to find a 'red' one here in the Swartberg. I do know that both reddish and grey ones can be found at another area in the Little Karoo. However, rubida would have more red than that specimen, i.e. not restricted to the oblong markings.
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Re: Interesting dwarf adder

Postby armata » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:45 pm

Westley, that is a neonate, the red fades somewhat with age. The photo was taken by Kevin Palmer.
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