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Postby phobos » Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:47 am

Lifes cruel twist..not much more to be said. This is what I found when I entered my snake room just a short time ago. I imagine it has something to do with her giving birth.

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Postby Chantel » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:57 am

That sucks big time!!! Ive had that happen a couple of times with different species! Its never easy! She didnt perhaps have one or 2 more babies in her that she didnt give birth to?? Had that with a big female Haitian Boa!
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Postby Bushviper » Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:26 am

Wow that is a dreadful loss. I know you do not feel up to doing an autopsy but I do believe there is either something torn or stuck inside her.

Possibly the sex ratios on the babies is in your favour and that the project does not end here.

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Postby hammies » Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:53 am

Now that is really F@#$%$ up! Sorry for your loss. Sure must put back your breeding project just a little bit.
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Postby dendroaspis » Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:09 am

Damn Al!! So sorry for the loss :(
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Postby Bushbaby » Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:27 am

Sorry for your loss Al. That really sux!! I've had that happen as well. I hope that all the babies make it though, then atleast you have some memory of her.
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Postby armata » Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:13 am

Oh that is tough, but appears no sign of internal bleeding. Do you know her age Al? it was a fair-size litter.
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Postby Alan Hyde » Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:52 am

Al my friend, I am so sorry to see this. Hoping all the babies do well

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Postby froot » Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:29 am

Ouch!, I feel your pain Al, maybe do a dissection to try find out how she died.
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Postby snake-5 » Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:00 am

Its never nice this kind of thing but if it at least provides some info that can save the life of another snake it helps. My condolences
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Postby phobos » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:48 pm

armata wrote:Oh that is tough, but appears no sign of internal bleeding. Do you know her age Al? it was a fair-size litter.


She was CB05...I obtained her from a friend when she was a month or two old... The only bright spot in my evening was I was able to get another baby to take a pink. I didn't feel like working with them last night but I owe their mother to take good care of them.

Thanks everyone for your support.

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Postby snake-5 » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:53 pm

1st clutches in my opinion are the most stressful, the females body is possibly working out all the kinks etc. I have lost most of my 1st litters and had better success with the 2nd and 3rd ones. Perhaps the shock was just a bit to much for her. Really sad though
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Postby armata » Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:31 pm

My findings are that the closely related B.armata are sexually mature in their 4th year, so she may have been a bit young. Also was she on a monthly feed before gravid. 3yr old fem B.armata are just touching 30cm.
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Postby Pythonodipsas » Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:47 pm

That is so nasty - at least she birthed before dying.
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Postby phobos » Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:52 pm

armata wrote:My findings are that the closely related B.armata are sexually mature in their 4th year, so she may have been a bit young. Also was she on a monthly feed before gravid. 3yr old fem B.armata are just touching 30cm.


She was on a 14 feeding schedule before she was gravid. I would give her a hopper size mouse, she had very good weight in August when I introduced the male. She was longer than 30 cm for sure. I will not send her to my zoo pathologist for a post mortem. I usually only do that for a unexplained death when disease (infectious) may be a factor. Since I cannot take preventative measures, a necropsy serves little purpose.

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