Death of the hobby part 2

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Re: Death of the hobby part 2

Postby Rishaad » Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:38 pm

Well done BV. Im glad it did not turn out as bad as everyone expected it to.
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Re: Death of the hobby part 2

Postby marc bt » Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:02 pm

Nice one BV!
Just one question, i have just bought a pair of babies White-lips, will i have to be getting permits and is it possible or will i just get turned down?
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Re: Death of the hobby part 2

Postby JPWittstock » Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:14 pm

Marc,
You wont need permits for those yet, only the species BV mentioned.
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Re: Death of the hobby part 2

Postby Pythonodipsas » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:58 pm

Thank you Arno and all others that helped and donated. It seems we did get off lightly thanks to your work.
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Re: Death of the hobby part 2

Postby gaboon69 » Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:42 pm

Nice going. Thanks BV. Perhaps we can hear more about this @ Friday's THA meeting.
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Re: Death of the hobby part 2

Postby MacAdder » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:23 am

Which official ‘conservation’ authority organized this meet and was this supposed to be public participation?
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Re: Death of the hobby part 2

Postby Bushbaby » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:50 am

No, it was not for public participation. The public participation will be held at a later stage.
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Re: Death of the hobby part 2

Postby MacAdder » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:23 am

Bushbaby wrote:No, it was not for public participation. ...


Interesting but then what was Arno and company doing at the meeting.
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Re: Death of the hobby part 2

Postby Bushbaby » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:12 am

Maybe if you read the whole thread you would understand what he was doing there.
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Re: Death of the hobby part 2

Postby LeglessDragon » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:22 am

@MacAdder - Arno and company were there to try and insure that we (the reptile community) do not get railroaded by politicians! Fortunitly it turned out that they were willing to listen and understand ;)

We are all very, very grateful and thankful you were there. Thanks again to you and all that were in your corner.
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Re: Death of the hobby part 2

Postby MacAdder » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:27 am

There was a workshop held in Kirstenbosch regards alien invasive species. If this was not for the public then my question still remains unanswered.
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Re: Death of the hobby part 2

Postby Bushviper » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:03 pm

The Department of Environmental affairs and Agriculture arranged the workshop. The public were invited to previous consultations and were asked to give input after the initial publication in the government gazette. DEA then looked at who all had sent in comments and on the basis of that the South African Biodiversity Institute was tasked to put together experts in the reptile field to come up with the final listings which are then forwarded to the minister for final approval before publication.

Due to the fact that so few people came up with reasonable scientific arguments for or against any given species only the people eventually involved in the workshop were invited. I was not there as a member of the public but as a representative of the SA pet traders as well as the THA.

The opportunity for public consultation and participation passed many months ago. See the beginning of this thread for cut-off dates. There were two opportunities to make comment and if nobody used that opportunity then that is too bad as government has met the constiutional legal demands to now be able to pass the law.
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Re: Death of the hobby part 2

Postby MacAdder » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:13 pm

Bushviper wrote:.. cut-off dates.


Thanks Arno I am aware of the cut off date so was not sure what this was about.
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Re: Death of the hobby part 2

Postby JaneDoe » Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:17 pm

"Boelens Python LOL? Someone's brain is good for nothing but bait."

Has anyone actually imported any of these to SA?
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Re: Death of the hobby part 2

Postby Bushviper » Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:16 pm

JaneDoe it is precisely because they have been imported that KZn had put them on their list. We did manage to dissuade them after lots of giggles because obviously they are clueless about the finer points of herpetology.
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