Mouth rot BHS case

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Mouth rot BHS case

Postby mailjvdb » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:19 pm

Urgh, for some reason, everyone always brings me all kinds of injured and neglected animals, which is ok, if I can help, but its a shitty feeling when they die on me... I was just contacted and went to pick up a rather large L.capensis that was kept under very dodgy conditions and "confiscated" by a friend.

Now the thing is, this snake suffers from mouth rot and is all ready seriously thin with teeth starting to fall out. Its not a pretty sight. Many years ago I had a Corn snake with this problem,and despite my best efforts, the snake eventually died. Besides the one case, I have never dealt with mouth-rot and thus my experience is limited to what I have read in books and such.

What am I to do? Firstly, I don't know if I have the time to care for the snake at the moment, since I recon one has to be very intensive with treatment? Secondly, It should probably receive some nutrition, as it wont eat due to the mouth being infected. I offered food, but as I thought, no luck. The snake looks rather thin, shame!

I used a ear-bud with a much diluted solution of antiseptic liquid to try and clean the mouth, but don't know if I'm doing more harm than good.
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Re: Mouth rot BHS case

Postby vinnige_fanie » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:49 pm

Tube feed egg! They can't really regurgitate liquid, and even if they do there is always something left on the lining of the stomach.
The only thing I have is backtroban; I wipe some on the inside under the lip, with an ear-bud.

This is the best info I can give, I hope you come right my case was a burm which I confiscated it from a friend.
Sad, really!

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Re: Mouth rot BHS case

Postby Bushviper » Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:21 pm

There is a whole bunch of good advice about treating mouth rot on the forum. The snake needs fluids at this stage and a warm cage to help combat the bacteria. You can try Hills AD in a tube as well to give the snake energy.
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Re: Mouth rot BHS case

Postby leonthemenace » Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:53 pm

Hey J, how's that BHS doing?
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Re: Mouth rot BHS case

Postby mailjvdb » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:19 pm

Hey, I fed her with egg yolk. It seems to stay in as mentioned, just a tad difficult with only one person, but managing.

I'll keep cleaning the mouth, hopefully it will help and the snake can recover, but I'm not getting my hopes up on this one as the infection looks rather bad. Lots of blood and puss around. I have also moved the snake to a warmer part. Lets all hope for the best...
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Re: Mouth rot BHS case

Postby martinshaun » Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:55 am

I have had good luck using hydrogen peroxide, they hate it cause it stings but clears it up after a few days, use twice a day.
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Re: Mouth rot BHS case

Postby vinnige_fanie » Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:15 am

I have an idea, tell me if this wrong, never tried it myself but here we go.

What about adding some antihistamine to the egg? to fight the infection of the snake?

Quantity is my biggest worry, maybe someone could shed some light on this.
Would be great info I think.
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Re: Mouth rot BHS case

Postby Bushviper » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:36 pm

Antihistamines would not help fight infection in the snake.

Antibiotics are not advisable in a snake that is debilitated because of the extra strain on the organs to process this medication as well.
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Re: Mouth rot BHS case

Postby vinnige_fanie » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:51 pm

I see thanks BV.
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Re: Mouth rot BHS case

Postby mailjvdb » Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:44 pm

It seems the swelling started going down, and also some color is returning to the mouth. I can also feel the teeth started growing again.

I'm using a earbud with a drop or two of savlon liquid mixed with about 25ml of water to clean the mouth twice daily.

Hope she makes it, nice size snake, about 90cm long.
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Re: Mouth rot BHS case

Postby leonthemenace » Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:51 pm

Cool, glad to hear she's showing some improvement. She could not have ended up in better hands.
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Re: Mouth rot BHS case

Postby vinnige_fanie » Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:37 pm

Sounds good :)

Post some pics please.
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Re: Mouth rot BHS case

Postby mailjvdb » Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:54 am

While spending some time with her now, I still heard a snapping/pop sound. I'm worried, could this be a RI?

Her mouth looks much better though, when I got her the inside was really rotten with lots of loose teeth. The gray color is gone and has been replaced with pink, so hopefully she will win this battle. She should shed any day now, after her shed I will offer her some pinkies.

As you can see on the first pic, she has some nasty scaring on her.
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Re: Mouth rot BHS case

Postby Silvrav » Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:45 am

That is a nice big BHS. Shame, hope she makes it.
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Re: Mouth rot BHS case

Postby vinnige_fanie » Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:44 pm

Thanks for the pics.
I would think if she is still making that sound you described she could still have some slime on the lungs (not sure if this species has 1 or 2?) I would say just keep the humidity up.

If it doesn't go away, take her to the vet.
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