Johan Marais

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Re: Johan Marais

Postby Jamster » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:11 pm

I understand fully. But why is everything so secretive?
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Re: Johan Marais

Postby TJ&ACP » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:27 pm

It is not secretive, it is too early. People only post when they out of hospital/danger.
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Re: Johan Marais

Postby michael » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:27 pm

I’m sure it’s not secretive, just that there’s a lot more going on that may surpass the need to update everyone, like getting through the hospital stay. I mean come on should we request a detailed report from him on this matter, or just say get well soon?
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Re: Johan Marais

Postby Jamster » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:39 pm

I am not talking about a response from him. Let him rest, that is all good and well. The handling course was given at a so called "secret undisclosed location" why? Everyone knows what he was bitten by, his condition, etc etc. But no one knows how he got tagged or where? There must have been a group of people that witnessed him getting tagged.
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Re: Johan Marais

Postby Kakibos » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:51 pm

westley wrote:Let this be a warning to all of us; if Johan, who is a veteran in this hobby (keeping and herping) can get bitten, anyone can be next!


Agree, always be careful. Hope you have a speedy recovery Johan.
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Re: Johan Marais

Postby Westley Price » Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:35 pm

Johan Marais wrote:Have posted updates elsewhere. I am still in hospital and doing fine. Was teasing a Puff Adder with the sole of my boot to show trainees how quickly it can strike (not too bright). It missed the sole and got be in the instep with one fang. The foot and leg is swollen with discolouration at the site of the bite - antivenom was not required and not administered.
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Re: Johan Marais

Postby Jamster » Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:43 pm

Thanks westley! I knew it wasnt just floek. Puffy tags are almost always due to silly mistakes.
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Re: Johan Marais

Postby MrG » Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:32 pm

Oh, Jam, you just wont stop. Go for a walk, go tease a puffy or something.
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Re: Johan Marais

Postby Warren Klein » Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:17 pm

Nice one MrG! Jamster, you better make sure you never get tagged yourself or at least never let any of us hear about it if you do.
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Re: Johan Marais

Postby michael » Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:27 pm

Agreed!!!
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Re: Johan Marais

Postby GregZN » Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:43 pm

Well said!!! No compassion!!
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Re: Johan Marais

Postby brentraf » Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:01 pm

I think that everyone needs to stop arguing and getting annoyed with each other and just be happy that Johan is ok. This forum should not be arguing amongst each other or criticizing people who are trying to educate others on how to handle snakes. People must support each other, mistakes happen and people need to learn from them and support each other after mistakes or freak accidents. Herping in SA needs to be united to keep the hobby and opinions in general on a positive note. Arguing between each other etc. does nothing positive.
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Re: Johan Marais

Postby Bushviper » Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:06 pm

Johan was working at a tracking station (probably Hartebeeshoek) and they dont want their location on the web. That's why that was a "secret".

Yeah he tried to get a puffie to strike the sole of his boot but it missed and penetrated his foot right on the instep. Its not really that swollen and has some necrosis forming but it is still painful.

His phones battery ran down so that's why he was out of contact shortly after the bite. He is fine and nothing to worry about.

I just wonder how he feels about the research that stated you can step on a puff adder and they will not bite you.
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Re: Johan Marais.

Postby Tagged » Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:23 pm

Its amazing how all the unnecessary and 'clever'comments come from the kids on the forum

Some people should keep their comments to themselves
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Re: Johan Marais

Postby michael » Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:08 pm

Internet warriors with all the experience of Google! It drives me crazy!
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