Rufous Eggs...

South African snakes with venoms that are not considered to be medically important.

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Postby horridus » Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:26 pm

the babies eat frogs as well, i noticed that i have found skaaps near water... babies must eat tadpoles or baby frogs. that one was under the same rock as a kassina

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Postby Bushviper » Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:35 am

I finally got eggs from my Rufous Beaked snake but of the 11 eggs only 6 look viable. They are much harder than normal snake eggs and remind me of Elaphe taenura eggs. Decent size as well considering how small the female is.

Now just to wait for them to hatch!
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Postby Mongoose » Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:26 am

Thats Awesome Bv!! Do they feed on mice when they young, id love to get some oneday!
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Postby horridus » Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:05 am

i have anoter female that has layed, so i have 27 eggs all viable, but think that only 23 will hatch. Still have two more females that look gravid.

i have one juvie that is on fuzzies, never had babies so dont know


well done bv,

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Postby Bushviper » Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:23 am

I have had some babies from Botswana before and they had to be forcefed as they did not want to take mice. I suspect that they are lizard and frog feeders and later switch to mice. I know insects are recorded in their diet so guess what I am going to include in the mix this time?
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Postby horridus » Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:32 am

makes sense, i know a lot more snakes than we think eat insects. any idea on incubation? i am probably going to be away when these things hatch :(
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Postby Bushviper » Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:15 am

Nope sorry. Gonna just go with the standard colubrid temps. I have made mine fairly wet because they are so hard.
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Postby horridus » Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:20 am

incubation period, not temp,


i am running mine at the usual 82 degrees
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Postby hammies » Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:02 pm

Sorry to go off the topic of Rufous for the moment.

Is it true that the skaapsteker eggs only incubate for 6 weeks?

Reason I am asking is that a mate got given 19 eggs and was wondering what to do with them after they hatch?

Oh and by the way. It is a spotted skaapsteker from Bronkhorstspruit area and she was apparently guarding the nest of eggs in the viv where the owner keeps her. She was not aggresive at all but like previously said, kept on returning to the site of the nest after the eggs was removed.

The previous year he left the eggs with her,and she guarded them, but they did not hatch.

Hence the reason he gave them away this time.
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Postby Bushviper » Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:08 am

Horridus I cannot find any information on the hatching tikme of Rufous beaked snake eggs. I saw a zoo yearbook once that had a whole report on the breeding of this species but that was many years ago.

I spoke to the previous herpetologist of the Transvaal museum yesterday and he said he was not aware of anyone who had recorded anything about the breeding of these snakes in SA. I guess we better start weighing and measuring eggs now!

Hammies about the skaapsteker eggs. I have hatched skaapsteker eggs before but cannot remember exactly how long they took to hatch. It may have been shorter when I think back but at the time I did not write down dates (which I suppose I should have hey). Hopefully your friend writes down all this info and we can put it up here as a reference for others.
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Postby horridus » Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:44 am

awesome, between us we have three clutches and over 30 eggs, (29 viable)

thats a start!!

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Postby Bushviper » Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:35 pm

Yeah so lets keep making notes of everything and possibly it will help other keepers in future.
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Postby horridus » Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:39 pm

you dont have notes yet? wow

i have some and will continue to add to them with photos. get a weight and measure length of each egg weekly etc and look these data when we are done

exciting stuff.

i speculate that mine will eat burritos out of the eggs as the are technically mexican!!
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Postby horridus » Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:34 pm

so, incubation period on rufous, minmum of 84 days at 83 degrees f

some are still coming out so i will give you a max soon.
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Postby Bushviper » Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:42 am

Note The temperature given here is in Farenheit and should be coverted to 28.3 Celcius.

At 83 degrees Celcius the eggs will not hatch but should be cooked in about 8 minutes depending on whether you like hard or soft boiled eggs.

Nice going Horridus. Keep us posted.
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