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Postby hammies » Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:05 am

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I hijacked this thread previously, but thought to start a new thread with some updates on the egg situation.

On monday 4 Dec 2006 I got a surprise when I went to look in the incubator.

This is what I found: :D :D

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Of the 19 eggs 2 have gone bad, 12 have hatched so far and 5 still look like they will hatch(keeping my fingers crossed)

This makes the incubation period approximately 33 days at a temp of approx. 28 to 29 degrees C.

Unfortunately one of the babies has a severly deformed spine, so I will have to euthenise(spelling?) it tonight.

I have never seen such small baby snakes in my life before, so I don't know what I am going to feed these babies yet. The books I have studied so far says they eat rodents, frogs, lizards and other snakes. I guess I will have to try and get hold of small tadpoles or something.

Any ideas where I can find such things in Kempton area?
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Postby froot » Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:36 am

Congrats, great to see indigenous locally bred. Maybe see how they respond to day old pinks before you endeavour to find other food items? They look pretty filled out so they may easily last until their first shed before eating.
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Postby hammies » Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:42 am

Why I am trying to find small tadpoles is because they are approx 4mm in diameter and I do not know if they will be able to swallow a day old pink.

Maybe if I cut them in half lenthwise?
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Postby Quintin » Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:43 am

Huge congrats..... very cute!!!

Try pinky heads... has worked for me before with baby white lip tree vipers!!!

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Postby Bushviper » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:47 pm

Even a pink would probably be too big for them. Mostly in the wild they eat lizards at this age. Small frogs, not toads, would also be appreciated.

I dont remember how you ended up with the eggs but if you can keep a few and take the majority of the hatchlings back to the same area and put them back they would appreciate it.

If you decide to keep them all and they each eat one lizard a week you will need 884 lizards a year to keep them going.
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Postby hammies » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:56 pm

I intend to return most of them to the area where the mother was found 2 years ago. I was just thinking of feeding them once or twice to give them a good start in life. I might consider keeping one or two if I can get them to eat properly, but I have heard that they are not good feeders?

On your question of where they come from:
I got given the eggs after last year's unsuccessful breeding attempt by the owner of the female snake. She was caught at Bronkhorstspruit dam.
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Postby Pythonodipsas » Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:32 pm

Excellent Hammies - Well done!!!!!!!. I always enjoy seeing that people are working with indigenous.

Tadpoles should work good if you can find. Olifantsfontein maybe?
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Postby hammies » Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:40 am

Ok, time for an update.

There are 16 little ones now(17 if you count the deformed one).
That makes it 17 out of 19 eggs!! :D :D

Pythonodipsas, I will try Olifantsfontein, but where exactly?
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Postby Pythonodipsas » Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:03 am

Well I havent been in Joburg for many years, but I remember Olifantsfontein was sorta close to Kempton. I used to go there often and found pans and dams here and there. Maybe drive in the country and look for stands of reeds. There should be water around reeds....hopefully Tadpoles. Maybe someone who lives near can help direct you.
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Postby Q Ball » Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:45 am

Perhaps try Bloupan Dam in Banero park
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Postby hammies » Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:51 am

I was thinking that as well until I remembered that there was a huge fuel spill there about a month ago(1,2 million litres of aviation fuel) which probably doesn't make it a good idea?

But thanks for the idea anyway Connie.

I will go visit all the wetlands this weekend in my area to see what I can find though.

Thanks also to Pythonodipsas
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Postby neko » Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:47 pm

Don't stick the tadpoles in tap water though. Take some of the damn water with you. The chlorine content in tapwater kills em.
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Postby Robman » Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:39 am

Hiya Hammies.

How the skaapies doing?

I have 6 spotted skaapies, all doing well, eating gecko tails and pinkie legs.

Waiting for them to grow a little more before I release them :)

I will post some pics of them hopefully tomorrow.

Anyways, have a great weekend!

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Postby Natal Black » Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:21 am

8 of my 14 hatched - the others split their eggs but never made it out ?
The 8 were released back to loacation , it was actually more rewarding seeing them off in the wild as it was hatching them , a good feeling !
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Postby Robman » Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:28 am

Congrats NB :)

Did you take any pics?
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