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Postby Randall » Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:27 am

I'm trying to find papers on all Aspidelaps. I want to be able to try and figure out / learn everything I can about them. I'm planning on getting a pair after the beginning of the year. I understand that there is only A.L. Lubricus and Cowlesi ? Any and all info will be appreciated.

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Re: Aspidelaps Papers

Postby Smeegle » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:28 am

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Re: Aspidelaps Papers

Postby lampie » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:18 am

Hi ,I have a pair of Cowlesi and they are amazing animals.They are very hardy animals and easy to keep.The most important thing is the cage size and depth.If the cage is the right size and a sand depth of about 5cm-10cm a hidebox and a small bowl of water and you have a happy snake.I don't have any heating in the cages,because in the summer my room gets very hot inside and they hybernate in winter.Their personality is amazing my female shows a small hood and the male only hisses.They have a appitite that is afraid of nothing they will eat anything from your fingers to dead lizards.Be very careful as the males seem to be superHoudinis.Everyone I know of that have a male have went into a search party looking for a superhoudini(including me),still puzzled on how he got out!
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Re: Aspidelaps Papers

Postby Randall » Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:59 pm

Thank you both for the info. I'm really looking forward to getting them. They are a wishlist snake for along time. Of course my list keeps getting longer but this will be a start into keeping elapids.

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Re: Aspidelaps Papers

Postby lampie » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:06 pm

Good luck hope you will enjoy them.
Remember to post pics when you have them.
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Re: Aspidelaps Papers

Postby lampie » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:11 pm

Randall wrote: Of course my list keeps getting longer but this will be a start into keeping elapids.


I know it is a very bad disease ,I hear just about all the members have this disease :cool: .The worst thing(for my parents)is their is no known cures for it :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Aspidelaps Papers

Postby Nasicornis » Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:25 pm

Keep in mind that although lubricus and cowlesi classifies the coral snakes Aspidelaps scutatus (shieldnose) belong to the same genus. Looking forward to some pics. They really are nice to keep.
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Re: Aspidelaps Papers

Postby uncutdiamonds » Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:10 am

http://biology.anu.edu.au/hosted_sites/ ... ljzool.pdf This one may help.

Try a scholar.google.co.za search.
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Re: Aspidelaps Papers

Postby Chopper 1 » Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:26 am

Are there not 6 species?? 3 coral and 3 shield nosed?
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Re: Aspidelaps Papers

Postby bitis keeper » Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:23 pm

Nope it changed theres only two coral species now lubricus and cowlesi.
The western coral or A.l.infuscatus now also classified as cowlesi.
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Re: Aspidelaps Papers

Postby Chopper 1 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:12 am

bitis keeper wrote:Nope it changed theres only two coral species now lubricus and cowlesi.
The western coral or A.l.infuscatus now also classified as cowlesi.


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Re: Aspidelaps Papers

Postby Westley Price » Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:02 am

I don't mean to nitpick, but you guys keep using the word "species," but I think you actually mean "subspecies."

Just scanned through the paper, but from what I understand, the only change is that A. l. infuscatus is now included in A. l. cowlesi.

So there are two subspecies of Aspidelaps lubricus and three subspecies of Aspidelaps scutatus, but in total, still just two species.

Just have to add, that picture of the fulafula in the paper is simply gorgeous!
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Re: Aspidelaps Papers

Postby Chopper 1 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:29 am

westley wrote:I don't mean to nitpick, but you guys keep using the word "species," but I think you actually mean "subspecies."

Just scanned through the paper, but from what I understand, the only change is that A. l. infuscatus is now included in A. l. cowlesi.

So there are two subspecies of Aspidelaps lubricus and three subspecies of Aspidelaps scutatus, but in total, still just two species.

Just have to add, that picture of the fulafula in the paper is simply gorgeous!


Thanks Westly - agreed! But to me they are still a species :twisted: whether sub-species or not if i collect a species then i want all of them sub or not ;)
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