Keeping and feeding corns

Keeping and feeding corns

Postby reinhard » Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:41 pm

Hi,

I ordered a breeding pair of corns. As I don't really know a lot about corns and they are on their way I need to get a lot of info on them. What should the size of the enclosure be (they're fully grown by now). What temperature do they like. What size should their prey items be? I have rat fuzzies and want to let them grow to the right size before killing them.

And last but not least. I know how to kill rat fuzzies, I learned that in Zoology class (by means of concussion), but what's this stun device everyone's talking about. If that rat won't die and it bites me, I'll wet my pants.
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Postby Bushbaby » Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:53 pm

Biotope: Terrestrial.
Cage L x B x H: 1 x 0.5 x 0.5
Air temperature: 24 – 28 degrees centigrade Day Time High and 18 –22 Night Time Low
Hotspot: Nocturnal animals. Subterranean heat source as hotspot.
Hibernate: 2-3 months DTH 18 degrees and NTL 10 degrees
Humidity: Medium to high
Fluids: Shallow to deep large water bowl
UV light/unfiltered sunlight: No
Cage layout: Hide box, sturdy branches can be added.

Hope this helps.
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Postby Gabi » Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:59 pm

Yeh BB answered the first part. I'm so glad I double checked because you would've had a double answer.

Stunning rats people usually just knock them up against a wall or other hard surface just with enough force to knock them out but when I try it I either don't do anything to the rat at all or I kill it. I rather stick to dead that way I know they're dead & I know they wont bite me. :oops:
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Postby reinhard » Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:15 pm

Oh OK!!

I thought I was the only one killing them in that way. That's how I started killing pinkies. Other people freeze them to death. I don't like that idea. A professor of mine taught us to kill rats in that way, but when he started dissecting it, to draw blood out of it's heart, it came to, he got bitten and the lab and everything (and everyone) inside it got sprayed with blood. I was not too impressed. A fellow student of mine ( a vegetarian) was less impressed than I.

I thought that maybe you could construct a device that works like the electric shock thingies in a chicken abatoir, with which they choke dead the chickens. I must have misinterpreted the word "stun".

Killing them by means of concussion, still seems quite acceptable, at least they get to feel like spiderman once in their life.
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Postby Corncrazy » Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:13 pm

Yip BB has got it all 100%
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Postby Dentech » Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:06 am

Just kill them with Co2, its painless and foolproof.
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Postby Bushbaby » Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:26 am

The one guy who I got my frozen rat pinkies from, must've run out of CO2 cause when we started thawing out the pinkies there were a few who started squeeqing. Obviously they were in the middle somewhere and they were'nt frozen too long before we got them. I just hated that.
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Postby Gabi » Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:43 am

:shock: :evil: *Gabi is speechless*



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Postby reinhard » Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:48 am

That's not nice.

I've found that rat pinkies/fuzzies dies a lot harder than mice. A good old drop to the ground would do for mouse pinkies, but with rats it's a bit more effort.

I almost forgot: Will a corn snake take rats? I have a friend whose only corn (the only one that I've really encountered) doesn't eat rats/hamsters. It only eats mice. I've only ever kept Cal Kings and they'll eat any of the above. Does it work like that with Corns?
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Postby Gabi » Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:50 am

My corn won't even look at rats. It's as if he laughs at me saying "What do you expect me to do with this?!?" when I give him a rat. But it's the same with my albino calking.
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Postby Bushbaby » Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:52 am

Most of my corns will take rat pinks and rat pups. Obviously bigger corns might take a weaned rat. I have not had a problem with them. There are a select few whom wont touch rats, but that's the minority.
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Postby reinhard » Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:58 am

Wow , you guys are quick to reply

I'll have to get myself internet at home, or my boss is bound to fire me
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Postby Neboo » Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:10 am

So cryogenics is possible :lol:
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Postby Sean » Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:47 am

To kill a rat pup, put it in a pillow slip or similar and bang that against a hard surface (your first attempt or two may be a bit gory but once you get the knack you will find its quite easy).

To kill mice and rats grab them with a grab stick or similar around the body hit head against a wall or the way I do it is I grab the rat/mouse by the thicker part of the tail (closer to the body) and I have a steel rack in my garage with sharp corners that I just break the rats neck or back on (be sure to leave for at lease 5 minutes before feeding Incase it is still alive). use force rats do not die as easily as mice.

Mice I take in my hand and just throw onto a hard floor (cement/tiles) with as much force as possible. (Ive only ever had one survive this and my dog took care of it for me).

Sorry that sounded cruel but I have tried electricity and it does not work
(bath tub with live current in) it kills mice sometimes but generally they touch the water and jump straight out.

CO2 would e the most humane but a bit pricey to start with.

CO2 I believe the easiest way is to get a garbage bin, drop rats in, get a CO2 fire extinguisher put a hose on the end put hose down to just above rats level and open it a little then close once there is efficient CO2 in the bin. The CO2 will sink but keep the bins lid on anyway and don't breathe the fumes yourself!

Leave the rats for around 20 min's and there you go, dead rats with a smile on there faces.
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Postby Dentech » Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:55 am

Reinhard, if you feed hamsters you should shave them first(LOL). Too much hair can cause impaction. Corns should take rats of the right size, you can even feed rabbit pinks on occasion.
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