Most of the Current Mex Mex Collection

Most of the Current Mex Mex Collection

Postby Jlassiter » Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:24 am

I was updating my Website and thought I'd share these photos here. These aren't all of them...at least 3 were in shed so I didn't get new pics of them....

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Re: Most of the Current Mex Mex Collection

Postby poobsta » Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:18 pm

Crazy Crazy Crazy! Epic snakes man! LOVE the last two! Are these morphs or just locality differences?
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Re: Most of the Current Mex Mex Collection

Postby Bushviper » Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:36 pm

I am always amazed by the number of them that have the line on the neck. I would have thought by now someone would have bred a striped one.

These are possibly the most underrated snakes of this genus. They have nice big babies and these are easy to get onto pinks. I did not know that they had so many varieties.

Very nice post.
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Re: Most of the Current Mex Mex Collection

Postby Jlassiter » Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:37 pm

Thanks!
They are morphs. The Black Phase morph is a natural occurence.
The granites are a line bred trait and there isn't much known about the Hypo-E trait except it has acted like a codom trait the past two seasons for me.

All are descendants of L. m. mexicana found in Valle de los Fantasmas, San Luis Potosi, Mexico.
We've been working on producing the first ever multi homozygous morphs.
Soon we should produce Black Phase Hypo-Es, Black Phase Granites, Hypo-E Granites and eventually Black Phase Hypo-E Granites....then there's striping to throw into the mix.
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Re: Most of the Current Mex Mex Collection

Postby Jlassiter » Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:39 pm

Bushviper wrote:I am always amazed by the number of them that have the line on the neck. I would have thought by now someone would have bred a striped one.

These are possibly the most underrated snakes of this genus. They have nice big babies and these are easy to get onto pinks. I did not know that they had so many varieties.

Very nice post.


We've been line breeding just for that fully striped animal......
One day it should happen....lol

Thanks for the kind words and I agree with you.
They are hardy mexicana!
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Re: Most of the Current Mex Mex Collection

Postby Westley Price » Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:30 pm

Such underrated snakes locally. They aren't all that common, but the prices are barely higher than a Cali King.

Great pictures of a great selection of morphs.

Could you please tell us a bit more about the morphs, are the proven, simple recessive or co-dom, any special projects etc?

That second-last pic of the granite is simply insane!
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Re: Most of the Current Mex Mex Collection

Postby Jlassiter » Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:06 pm

westley wrote:Such underrated snakes locally. They aren't all that common, but the prices are barely higher than a Cali King.

Great pictures of a great selection of morphs.

Could you please tell us a bit more about the morphs, are the proven, simple recessive or co-dom, any special projects etc?

That second-last pic of the granite is simply insane!


I went into it a little in a previous post in this thread.

Classics from UNKNOWN lineage go for $50 (USD) or so.
Classics from KNOWN pure lines go for around $90 (USD) or so.

The black phase is a naturally occuring morph....It is line bred by Mother Nature.
When two black phases are bred together all black phase hatch, but when they emerge from the egg they look normal. With age the gray turns black.
When a black phase is bred to a normal there will be some dark offspring but they typically do not turn black. They are "inbetweeners"
True Black Phase Mex Mex go for $300 (USD).

The second to last picture is an Ultra Granite......The Granite gene is expressed in varying degrees. We use the term Ultra Granite for the totally speckled ones.
It seems the females express the pattern mutation the best. This gene is unpredictable as well. It seems only about 20% of the offspring from a Ultra Granite to Ultra Granite are Ultras....Others from that pairing can be normal as well. Next year we will see if a pair of normals from an Ultra granite pairing can produce granites or ultra granites.
Ultra granites go for $100 - $750 (USD)

The Hypo-E gene is the newest of them all.....
No one has bred a Hypo-E X Hypo-E yet that I know of.
But the gene has acted codominant the last two years.
I bred a Black Phase male to a visual Hypo-E female the last two years and produced a single hypo-e offspring each year.
This year we will be breeding Hypo-E X Hypo-E to see if there is a super form (Anery?) or if all offspring or none will be Hypo-E.
I have not sold a Hypo-E so I do not know the price I will set for them.

Striping is a line bred trait....The striping has gradually gotten longer over the past two generations......
No pricing known on them either as none have been marketed yet.

Next year I am breeding the Hypo-E gene into the Ultra Granites.
I have a pair of Black X Granites that will be breeding next year as well.
And I have a pair of nicely striped ones from they Hypo-E line that will be paired up for the first time next year.....

Then there's a "top secret" project on the horizon with mex mex.....
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Re: Most of the Current Mex Mex Collection

Postby Jlassiter » Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:07 pm

And there are some California Kings worth $500 (USD).....just saying....lol
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Re: Most of the Current Mex Mex Collection

Postby Venommaniac » Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:47 pm

COOL.
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Re: Most of the Current Mex Mex Collection

Postby Jlassiter » Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:41 pm

Thanks Venommaniac...
They are some of my favorite projects.....
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Re: Most of the Current Mex Mex Collection

Postby SerpentS » Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:45 pm

Jlassiter U left me speechless once again.

Relay love your snakes.
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Re: Most of the Current Mex Mex Collection

Postby rolandslf » Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:10 am

Why did I have to open this thread.

JL - As you know I have suddenly developed this passion for Kings, I now have 5 different breeding pairs of King Species and sub species.

The other day I opened a thread on Thayeri, now this on Mexicana. I am going to be in serious trouble come December Bonus time, because I give you one guess as to my next 2 Adult Breeding Pairs of Kings.

Thanks for the pics, totally awesome snakes.
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Re: Most of the Current Mex Mex Collection

Postby Jlassiter » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:15 am

SerpentS wrote:Jlassiter U left me speechless once again.

Relay love your snakes.



Thanks.....but you can say SOMETHING.....lol
Glad you like them.
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Re: Most of the Current Mex Mex Collection

Postby Jlassiter » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:17 am

rolandslf wrote:Why did I have to open this thread.

JL - As you know I have suddenly developed this passion for Kings, I now have 5 different breeding pairs of King Species and sub species.

The other day I opened a thread on Thayeri, now this on Mexicana. I am going to be in serious trouble come December Bonus time, because I give you one guess as to my next 2 Adult Breeding Pairs of Kings.

Thanks for the pics, totally awesome snakes.


Thanks Roland.....I won't post the new photos of the Thayeri collection then......lol
What about Greeri or Ruthveni?
Then there's Goini, Floridana, California, Nigrita, Nigra, Meansi, Splendida, Holbrooki, Zonata, Pyromelana, Knoblochi, Calligaster and all the Milks.....hahahahaha
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Re: Most of the Current Mex Mex Collection

Postby Jlassiter » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:18 am

OH YEAH....and Alterna!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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