WARNING-burm necropsey (very graphic)

WARNING-burm necropsey (very graphic)

Postby Burmbuddy » Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:45 pm

Hy guys.
Well here it is.
Tools of the trade
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Poseidon (11,5 months. 190cm=6ft 3in)
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He died right b4 shed.(he had not started,i removed the skin manualy)
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The teeth were surprisingly strong and long
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The skin removed from the throat-the windpipe,and arteries are clearly visible.Also notice the carteliage that protects the vital structures during swallowing.
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This area was damaged from what looked like septecemia.(the area between the tools)
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The skin has been flapped open and the internal organs are all clearly visible.
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This is some of the slime that was clogging up his airway
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The trachea with the c-rings cearly visible
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The heart as it sits in the chest-cavety
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The trachea as it sits in the troat -notice the sline in the Jacobens- organ (originating from the nose)
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Sequence of the opened body cavaty,with the organs clearly visible.
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The heart -notice the large fat deposits
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Spur -it extended a long way into the body cavety
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The heart removed -the instruments indicate the 3 chambers.My hand is a size refrence
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The lung filled with air (do not ask how i git it in there...)
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The liver
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Notice the obvious damage (most probably due to all the meds)
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The lung removed.
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Cut open
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Instrument indicates some of the slime/mucus left in he lung.
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The scalpel indicates the stomach,and the two needles indicate the large blood vessels coming from the liver and the other indicates the gall-bladder.
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Notice how the fat around the gall bladder has been coulered green,i found this fascinating and i am unsure whether this is normal or not.
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The gall-bladder.
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The stomach -56 cm in lenght (scalpel as a size refrence.)
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Muscle ridges in the front part of the stomach.
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Back part of stomach.
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The needles indicates the kidneys and the scalpel the small intestine and the scissors the large intestine.
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The large intestine with air clearly visilbe inside.
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The kidney.
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The oesofagus.With scalpel as a size refrence.
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The very large fat deposit that ran though the entire body cavety.Notice again the discouleration caused by the gall bladder.
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The Jacobsens-organ in the roof of the mouth,the toung is also clearly visible.
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Thanks for watching.hope this helps us all to understand these awesome guys better.
DAN
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Postby Dead_puppy » Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:57 pm

WOW, absolutly amazing, thanx for all the effort you put into this, its awsome. Sorry for your loss though. Hope you enjoyed cleaning it all up!!!:)
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Postby gaboon » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:11 pm

You must have a strong stomach, nearly ruined my keyboard
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Postby Corncrazy » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:29 pm

Gee wiz, that is great, thanks so much for all the time an effort Dan, how long did the autopsy take?

Really awesome, thanks so much ;-)
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Postby arcadies » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:36 pm

wow, very very awsm. its amazing how much of the body is the digestive system. Thx for these pics
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Postby Hellemar » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:56 pm

Hi...


...and then you put him togheter again and now he´s feeling fine again... ;)


Nice set of pics ! Thanks !


Stunning to see how much fat he had inside - and keep in mind that this snake wasn´t that big... I would like to see a HUGE burmese inside someday...



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Postby froot » Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:16 pm

Excellent post Burmdaddy!!

It's not nice cutting open an animal you've cared so much for but at least now you have given some purpose to that animal's fate and others may be helped as a result of this. Thank you.

My uneducated 2c.....
The part of this autopsy that strikes me most as being irregular is the gall bladder and it's surroundings, I reckon that's what killed the snake right there. The area that you suggested as being caused by septecemia does not look that bad, maybe life threatening but not c.o.d. The liver looks damaged but not that bad, and not c.o.d. The heart looks excellent, as well as the digestive tract. Blood nice and dark. Lungs look fine, mucus being just a symptom of it's condition.

I would love to hear what an experienced vet has to say.

Thanks once again for all your trouble ;)
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Postby arcadies » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:01 pm

what are u studing Burmbuddy? some bsc?
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Postby firefly » Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:03 pm

jeez this took a while to open...

nice pics

i do not think that the koshuis would be to happy with u doing a pm in your room...

give us some history. how long after it died did u cut it open?

gall bladder and staining is normal.
liver 'damage' is most likely not significant.
general redness is significant though.
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Postby elapid » Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:54 pm

I read that the first thing to decay on a reptile is the Gall bladder hence the green colouration

I could be wrong though
But I think im right ;)
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Postby firefly » Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:50 pm

maybe not the first, but one of the early post mortem changes. it is called bile imbibition (bile staining). the liver damage is most likely also just post mortal change. the kidneys look 'watery' and may also be post mortal.

i think it had a severe gram negative bacterial infection. what did your vet say?
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Postby Zeek » Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:52 pm

Sorry about your loss :cry: & thanks for the great biology lesson :!:
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Postby Burmbuddy » Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:15 am

Hy guys,thanks for the kind words.
how long did the autopsy take?

3-4 houers.

what are u studing Burmbuddy? some bsc?

nope im doing Actuarial science

i do not think that the koshuis would be to happy with u doing a pm in your room...

LOL yea some of the guys have already finished with exams so i did this in a emty room.Cleaned it all up and keeping my little reptile addiction on the low,though half the res is in my room come feeding day...LOL

give us some history. how long after it died did u cut it open?

I cut it open 5 days after the death-kept him in my freezer for that time.

i think it had a severe gram negative bacterial infection. what did your vet say?

He had a BAD poseidomedos infection in his lungs-(lung wash results),the septicemia indicates that a further infection in the body was highly likely.

Thanks again for all the support.
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Postby Quintin » Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:31 am

Great post.... "All in the name of science" - Sorry for your loss!

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