Burmese Python: Eating problems

Burmese Python: Eating problems

Postby mbotwice » Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:37 am

Hi, am fairly new to your website and am relieved to have found a home of help.
My female python hasn't eaten in over five months. I am aware that this happens at times but am getting worried now! Although she has been shedding normal and her behavior still fine-just wondering what i must do to help stimulate the her to eat.
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Postby Bushbaby » Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:52 am

Hello mbotwice,

Welcome to the forum.

A few questions which may help you as to why she may not be eating. It will help us give advice.

How old is your Burmese Python? Was she introduced, or is she living in the same enclosure, as a male? Do you have a male near her (in another cage).

What is her cage like? i.e. wooden cage, with front sliding glass, etc. What size is the cage. Is there anything you may have added into her cage before she stopped eating? What do you use for heating? What's the cage temperature?

Lastly, what had she been eating and how big is she?
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details about my burmese

Postby mbotwice » Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:47 am

Thanx for the quick response,

I feel at home already.
She is a female probably about 4 years old (I have had her for three). She is about 1.5 meters long and roams around the house freely.

She had a cage but I found that she had outgrown it and I decided to let her loose around the house. It is relatively warm around the house but when its cold, I put a heating pad underneath a blanket where she usually coils up to gather warmth.

She has never mated and have never introduced her to another python!
The last thing she ate was a rat-which is her stple food. I sometimes feed her birds but not very often. She has just finished shedding last weekend and the week before that-she was shedding too.

I ussually put her in water every weekend (Saturday and Sunday) when its hot and she lays there for the whole day
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Re: details about my burmese

Postby Marbro » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:48 am

mbotwice wrote:and roams around the house freely.
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Postby Bushbaby » Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:02 am

Firstly I have to say that having a free roaming python is never a good idea.

Secondly, the python seems to be very small for her age. This could be due to many factors, but most of them point to not being fed enough while she was younger.

I would look into getting a cage for her. It is easier to control temperatures in a small area than in a larger area.

Do you feed her live or dead prey? Have you tried a small rabbit? Sometimes they would like a change in diet.
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feeding

Postby mbotwice » Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:29 am

No I haven't tried to feed her rabbits, but will surely do. As for her size-it has baffled me just as much! I do try to feed her monthly but as I said earlier, she hasn't had food since April or may!

Its not that I like to keep her roaming-I am working on building her a more comfort home before November-just didn't have the pressure per se to doing it sooner, besides, I live alone with her and my dog and I think she enjoys that more as she has her favorite chilling spots which are warm!

I do concur with you though that it would be easier to control the temperature in a closed environment.

I will try to feed her a baby rabbit as well as post so picts of her in the forum somehow. I will let you know how that goes. I ussualy feed her live rats and birds but have gotten advice from many people to start feeding half-dead animals (personally don't agree but am told I could get in a lot of trouble if I am found-is that true anyway). I am hesitant to feed her half dead animals coz I don't like the sight of unconscious animals.

Thanks for the advice
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Postby swazi » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:02 am

A roaming python & a dog - what kind or dog? :shock:
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Postby BigT » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:49 am

IMHO you need to get that enclosure sorted ASAP or this all could end in tears for you, your dog and your Burm. Unfortunatly it just takes half a minute lack of concentration and you could have a dead dog or a dead snake. Also on anapsid.org there is story of an american family whose 8 foot burm killed their 14 year old son while he slept on the couch. It is easy to forget because burms can be so relaxed but they are incredibly efficient hunters with very small brains.

I would also recommend trying to get her to take pre killed food as soon as you can. Live food can pose a real danger to your snake and with a little effort most snakes can be converted to pre killed and frozen thawed. I cant agree with stunning or half killing or any other similar nonsense but think the prey animal should be killed as quickly and painlessly as possible.

Hope this helps and i hope you get her sorted.
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Postby mbotwice » Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:19 pm

Thanx yo'l for the comments. I am aware of the dangers but as I said my snake is still young and am experimenting. funny enough my pets get along extremely well!! they have developed a unique relationship.
I am a Pitbull breeder of 15 years and have worked with reptiles since 1987 (with some breaks in between). You can check out my dog at: http://www.dogster.com/dogs/450395.
Thanks BigT for the advise. Will keep you informed-tomorrow am taking her to the pets store to see if she will feed-she just completed shedding today and she looked very agile-so am hoping
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Postby Burmbuddy » Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:29 am

Wow I nearly fell over when I read this...

Ok I am ASSUMING (and hoping) you are doing this out of ignorance.
So lets address some of the problems.

1-She needs a cage TODAY, a 1,5m burm can live in a 4ft tank/cage for a while till you can get a bigger one-cages are cheap and easy to make.If you have problems give me a call and i will try and see if i can lend you one till you get sorted, i also have some good plans to build bigger cages.

2-You need to get controll over her temps, burms need temps nothing lower then 27 deg C AT ALL TIMES, they are sensative to cold temps and get respiratory infections when kept too cold. Get a good system going with the warm side of the cage at say 33 and the cold side at 28 ALL THE TIME!
A thermostat works very well.

3-Size and feeding
A burm that age should be close to full grown (That is at least 3,5m for a female, prob more) Feeding once a month is too little food, i would feed every week.
Feed her pre-killed animals in her cage.
She is probably not eating because she is stressed by the dog/BIG space/ no secure hiding place etc.

I gotta go now, will post some more info later.
I am not trying to burn you, we would love to help you and your little burm. If you like you can give me a call on 0848880474 for some more info.
Burms are great animals and can give you years of fun IF KEPT RIGHT.
Hope this helps some.
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Postby Bushbaby » Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:47 am

Thanks for this Dan.

Mbombo, are you sure you have a Burmese Python? Size wise it would be more acceptable if it were a red-tailed boa. Not saying you don't know what you have, but I have come across several people that have called their Boa a Python.
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Postby mbotwice » Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:41 pm

I am sure it is-in fact as i said earlier-have been working with reptiles for a while and this is the third Burmese i have owned in that span. I have also attached a picture of her-which is part of the URL i sent in my last post.

Scroll down the images and you should be able to see a picture of her with the dog.

Thanks for the meaningful advise and of course i will heed to it in due course-I am busy redoing my house and have a plan for a glass-patio where am gonna build a permanent cage for her-hopefully before December starts.

I do agree that the feeding pattern she on right now is not sufficient and will make a plan on that too-will keep you posted

I feel like part of the family already-i thank you for all your assistance.
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Postby Bushbaby » Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:54 pm

Sorry Mbotwice. Didn't see the pic. You are correct. My tummy did a summersault (sp?) when I saw it around your dog like that. If the dog just takes 1 bite... ouch!!!

Good luck, and I hope you get the cage done soon. :)
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ha ha ha

Postby mbotwice » Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:22 pm

Most people freak out when they see that image-rest assured the dog is well-trained and understands that the big sister-don't know if Lulu (my snake) understands though. I will definitely keep you informed on the progress!

Just as a matter of interest, have you somehow thought of integrating black communities on awareness programmes?

I have found that most of my people have this never-ending fear/stigma towards reptiles which I have to some degree, been able to convince people I come to contact with that reptiles require the same respect as that thats given to other godly creatures.

I however feel what I have done is very minimal and am interested in starting up a conservation/awareness campaign around reptiles, especially in townships. We had a similar initiative that we started when I was living in Tanzania some years back and it was very successful given the circumstances. It was very easy to set it up then coz we had a closed community and commanded a lot of respect from the locals who relied heavily on our rescue missions.

Just want to share a thought with you on that and see if you would be interested in such an initiative--a mobile solution would be best and we would have to see how solicit funding.
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Postby Bushviper » Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:51 pm

Mbotwice this subject you touched on here needs to go as a thread on its own. I know for one I have 100 suggestions and challenges of my own to mention about this.
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