A.Contortrix Dead

A.Contortrix Dead

Postby venomking » Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:30 am

Good morning all tought I would share this story,so as I was removing my pair of copperheads out of there inclosure I put the both of them in a large container closed the lid and was off cleaning and the next moment I heard a really good scuffle in the container and as I opend the container saw the male going crazy turns out the female had a good nick at him with one fang entering the venom gland and the other behind the neck area a was really upset and hope that he would make it but unfortunately he did not after approx 25min he was gone so they are not imune to there venom :(

-Moved to the correct section, these are certainly not mildly venomous- Wes
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Re: A.Contortrix Dead

Postby Westley Price » Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:44 am

Sorry to hear about your loss.

Often it is not the venom that does the killing in these types of situations, but rather the physical trauma of the fangs puncturing a vital organ.

Might the female's fang have punctured the male's brain or (more likely) its spine?

Did the male show any symptoms such as swelling, blistering or necrosis before/after death?
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Re: A.Contortrix Dead

Postby venomking » Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:56 am

Hi westley Price it seems the female's fang missed his spine but the other fang could have punctured the brain and yes there was a little swelling on the head wound no necrosis or blistering little bleeding aswell .

Does anyone need him maybe for educational purposes?
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Re: A.Contortrix Dead

Postby Ruan Stander » Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:04 pm

I've also wondered about this a lot.
If snakes of the same species are not immune to one another's venom, is an individual snake immune to its own venom ?
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Re: A.Contortrix Dead

Postby Bushviper » Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:06 pm

I have seen snakes of the same species bite each other and die. I have seen snake of the same species bite each other and not die. I have seen a Snouted cobra bite a Cape house snake which lost a huge piece of tissue and still survived. I have seen snakes eat other snakes, regurgitate them and they lived. I have seen snakes bite themselves and die shortly afterwards.

I am still not sure about the answer.
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Re: A.Contortrix Dead

Postby Ruan Stander » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:33 pm

And the mystery remains.
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Re: A.Contortrix Dead

Postby venomking » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:41 am

Nice information Bv would be nice to know the facts if it's possible guess youd have to sacrifice a few snakes,doubt any of us would do that
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Re: A.Contortrix Dead

Postby Jamster » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:53 am

Venomking do you perhaps take the snakes out and place them in containers when you feed?
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Re: A.Contortrix Dead

Postby venomking » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:40 pm

Hi Jamster yes I do its something ive always done come to think of it she maybe had a feeding reaponse she is gravid so that could play a role aswell not to sure why.
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Re: A.Contortrix Dead

Postby Jamster » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:30 pm

Yep perhaps she has become well conditioned to feeding in the container and that is why she went for him.
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