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Postby Bushviper » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:08 pm

Nope Bitis nasicornis has more blue and red in it depending on where it is from. Bitis rhinoceros looks almost exactly like our Gaboon viper except for the nasal projections and one less marking under the eye. Ours has two triangles under the eye and the B. rhinoceros just has one.
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Postby Blake » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:11 pm

Oh ok, thanks for the information BV appreciate it.
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Postby AneryCobra » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:20 pm

Ahh sorry, I did not know about the WA Gaboon thing. Why does a search of Rhinoceros Viper give me B. Nasicornis?
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Postby wadekilian » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:37 pm

That's why I listed it as West African Gaboon, haha. If you say Rhinocerus Viper, everyone automatically assumes you're talking about Rhino Vipers - Bitis nasicornis. But Arno is correct, it became Rhinocerus Viper when they were elevated to a separate species.

Arno, do you know why they were made a separate species instead of remaining a sub-species when there are such small differences?
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Postby GOM » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:47 pm

Awesome pics.... welcome and I hope there are a lot more piccies to follow???
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Postby LizardLover » Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:39 pm

Indeed good pictures.
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Postby Bushviper » Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:42 am

wadekilian wrote:Arno, do you know why they were made a separate species instead of remaining a sub-species when there are such small differences?


I have no idea. There is a constant struggle between "splitters and lumpers" who are scientists who like subspecies and scientists who prefer species. Nobody can give me a clear idea of why they do this.

We can be grateful that they did this because otherwise we would require tops permits for B. rhinoceros because nature conservation protect all animals at species level and not subspecies level. This is why you require permits for "Cape parrots" sub species that dont occur in South Africa.
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Postby Gargoyle » Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:30 pm

Very nice pictures there and thanks for the post. I'de like to know what 2 & 3 are ID'd as. Would I be getting warm if I said number 2 has similarities to a Forest Cobra?
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Postby LizardLover » Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:57 pm

Doesn't really look like a forest cobra.
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Postby wadekilian » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:29 pm

Gargoyle wrote:Would I be getting warm if I said number 2 has similarities to a Forest Cobra?


You're spot on about the Cobra part, haha. But that's definitely an Asiatic Naja species. I can see why you'd mistake it as a Forest Cobra though.

Another reason I think they're Monocled Cobras, if you go to the first page of the Exotic Cobras section, Herphabitat has a thread titled "Asiatic Naja" and they show pics of specimens that are now at Perry's Bridge Reptile Park, and it looks like the same ones.
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Postby Durban Keeper » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:18 am

Amore I really like your photos. Welcome to the forum. What do you think your first snake will be?
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Postby LizardLover » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:12 am

Make it a ball python or a corn snake.
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Postby Gargoyle » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:42 am

@Wadekilian Thanks. Had a look at that post and I agree, Asiatic Naja. Thanks for directing me to that post . What a nice treat. This newbie loves picture posts
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Postby Amore.za » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:24 am

Thanks for all the replies everyone, I appreciate all of you taking the time to look.

@Durban keeper, I have no idea yet! But I will keep you posted!
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Postby JeffG » Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:17 pm

Hi Guys,

The cobra in question is a Monocled cobra. It is what is refered as the Suphan locality, they have faint hood markings and have the flecking in their colour. The Suphan morph which is a genetic mutation on the other hand has almost no patterning and is a cream to off yellow colour with a greyish head and is alot cleaner.

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