Henkeli new viv and feeding experience

Henkeli new viv and feeding experience

Postby thorrshamri » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:50 pm

My 10 cm (4’’) henkeli CB juveniles were in a 115 cm (nearly 4’) high viv with a densely planted setting and a lot of hides .The trouble was ,I could not carefully monitor their food intake and check for wandering preys and stools .Thus ,I made this new setting in a 40x30x50 cm high viv (16’’x12’’x20) trying to furnish it in a simpler way :

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The first good news was to find several normal stools in their former cage .There is no better evidence they have eaten since their arrival on Dec. 10th .I did not find much stools though .

Just before transferring them into their new cage ,I took a few new shots .I wanted both to share these shots and ask experts whether they look healthy or not .

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Detail of the dermal fringes ,showing tiny structures at the edge of them ,probably to help breaking off the body shape while resting on a tree during the day ,head downwards :

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Just bark or a leaf-tail around ?

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The camera flash makes things clearer :

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Fearing they may be a little underfed and dehydrated ,I took the opportunity of the photo session to feed them gently with a plastic syringe .Having read that some keepers sometimes use fruit mash ,I decided to try whole milk yogurt with lychees : at first they were a little reluctant to lick the drops on their snouts but they soon showed that they really enjoyed it ,one of them even « asked » obviously for more .

I thought it was also interesting to share ,as yogurt is a good source of calcium and other electrolytes ,proteins and a good way to rehydrate the animals .

I underline they were not handled at all during the whole process ,to avoid unnecessary stress .This is a video to show how I did :

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=CcOMPTobL8w

And a few pics :

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I was also wondering ,as they really seemed to appreciate this fruit yogurt diet ,if they could feed occasionally on fruits in the wild .Of course I will not renew the experience unless necessary .A lot of geckos are known to feed on fruit regularly ,others are occasional feeders ,so may Uroplatus be in the latter case ?
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Postby Bushviper » Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:51 pm

I am not aware of Uroplatus being fruit eaters but if this is on their noses they will lick it off. Possibly they do get some nectar on their noses while foraging and lick this off too. I am sure they would poke their noses around rotting fruit to find insects too and possibly they get some in that way too.
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Postby thorrshamri » Wed Dec 26, 2007 4:21 pm

That sounds like a possibility indeed :D
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Postby SarkkaS » Wed Dec 26, 2007 4:32 pm

The dairy products in milk - is there a benefit from the calcium, or are there negative effects, from, say the lactose?


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Postby thorrshamri » Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:29 am

Apparently ,animal species in the broad sense who are usually unable to digest milk can digest yogurt as it holds ferments ,so it is no problem for them ;)
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Postby Trayton » Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:18 am

Very nice post Thorrshamri,amazing little gekos that make a valuable addition to a collection,love how their little tail "stick" to the surface they're on!I wish you good luck in raising and eventually breeding them!

Please keep us updated and post feeding pics if you can.
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Postby Michelle » Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:22 am

Thanks for such an interesting post Thorrshamri! It's always a pleasure reading your posts! Good luck with them.
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Postby Leos r gr8 » Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:15 pm

You must have quite a collection Thorrshamri! Thank you for thie pics, these geckos are so different!
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Postby thorrshamri » Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:41 pm

Thanks!
I will post pics later to show their evolution in time ,this is not a problem :D
By the way ,can you find some Uroplatus in SA pet shops?
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Postby Snake Charmer » Fri Dec 28, 2007 2:01 pm

They are sooo gorgeous!
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Postby Bushviper » Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:43 pm

Uroplatus have not been available in the pet trade for about 6 years now. At the time just getting crickets was almost impossible.

I suspect there will be quite a few coming in next year. They will however be wild caught stuff straight from Madagascar.
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Postby SarkkaS » Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:40 am

Is there any reasonably accurate information on the conservation status of Uroplatus available?


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Postby thorrshamri » Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:22 am

On CITES website you will find for each year the number of exports to other countries for each species : www.cites.org
IUCN do not list them though you will find more data here:
http://www.iucn.org/themes/ssc/our_work ... us_spp.pdf
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Postby SarkkaS » Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:04 am

Let's hope the numbers don't go down too fast and they actually get included on app. II on CITES. One important goal is reproduction in captivity, so I wish you the best of luck with these beautiful animals ;)


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Postby thorrshamri » Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:12 am

They are already in the Appendix II of CITES and B for UE regulations (CE 338/97 modified in 2005 ). ;)
Thanks Sarkkas ,I'm doing the best I can.
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