since when? 1,8m gaboon

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Postby Bushbaby » Thu May 22, 2008 2:17 pm

Nasicornis wrote:
Butterfly vipers (B. rhinocerus).


I am confused now, wasn't Butterfly reserved for B nasicornis?

Anyway, my male B rhinocerous measured at 151cm lat time I checked and I would also think that B rhinocerous get alot bigger than B gabonica. My adult B gabonica female is about 126cm now.


Butterfly viper or river jack would be a B nasicornis.
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Postby Hendre » Thu May 22, 2008 6:58 pm

lol at BV :D

i didn't know they can get so big??? that must be pretty intimidating :!: :shock: :!:
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Postby Bushviper » Thu May 22, 2008 7:06 pm

Yip I got it all confused. Sorry. These names are confusing enough and now I go and screw it up even more. My apologies.
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Postby froot » Thu May 22, 2008 9:31 pm

I think there has been confusion over the name 'butterfly adder' since pa fell off the T-rex. In the book 'Snakes alive' by Laurence Wingate the caption between 2 black and white photos of a western gaboon in the firm grip of a person's hand it states:

Two views showing the method of holding a snake's head--- in this case the Gaboon Viper or Butterfly Snake. In both cases the thumb is on top of the head and fingers well up under the lower jaw.


Although I havn't really looked, I have yet to see a B. nascicornis referred to as a 'Butterfly' snake/adder/viper.
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Postby armata » Thu May 22, 2008 9:45 pm

I think I might have caused some confusion by stating that my daughter called the nose-horned viper (B.nasicornis) the butterfly snake.

In my book I just stated eastern And Western gaboon Vipers.
i.e. B.gabonica - B.rhinoceros, sort of simplifies matters.
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Postby drummer » Thu May 22, 2008 9:54 pm

In my book I just stated eastern And Western gaboon Vipers.
i.e. B.gabonica - B.rhinoceros, sort of simplifies matters.


not really, according to maps in "Venomous Snakes of Africa. 2007. Maik Dobiey and Gernot Vogel" you find gabonica on the west coast of africa too!
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Postby armata » Thu May 22, 2008 10:29 pm

Yes I appreciate that but lets just settle for east of the Dahomey gap.
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Postby drummer » Thu May 22, 2008 10:42 pm

agreed
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Re: since when? 1,8m gaboon

Postby Contortrix » Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:32 pm

I don't understand what's so disturbing with the facts that gaboons can reach a lenght of 1,8m? My Bitis rhinoceros is close to 190cm if not bigger (have no exact measures) so i don't find it impossible for Bitis gabonica to be mutch smaller.
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Re: since when? 1,8m gaboon

Postby snake-5 » Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:50 pm

Aren't the puffy's from Kenya still the biggest adders in Africa though records of over 6 feet have been recorded as far as i can recall.
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