Sexing B.thamnobates

Sexing B.thamnobates

Postby Solid Snake » Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:32 pm

Hello all! I am Solid Snake, I live in North Carolina, USA.

I have recently received three Bradypodion thamnobates.

If anyone is familiar with them, I would like input on their age, and especially their sex.

I understand these may not be the best photos for sexing them, but they are the best ones these guys have let me get of them. ;/

I can try to take more of them, if requested.
(I guess they are too large for this forum, Here is a link to all the pics I have of them:http://s618.photobucket.com/albums/tt263/davidfishman/Thamnobates/)
Largest one, thought to be male:
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Smallest one, thought to be female:
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Mid-sized one, thought to be female as well:
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Any info on them is appreciated.
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Re: Sexing B.thamnobates

Postby Fooble » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:01 pm

The species is sexually dimorphic by colour and size.
The males are much smaller and have much more vibrant colours in them, particular populations within their tiny distribution have incredible Bright reds and oranges with dark black patches they are exquisite chameleons.
Males have large Hemipenal buldges at the tail base.

What is the group size supposed to be 1:2?
To be honest they mostly all look like females.

This one seems to have a thick tail base.
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Would be nice to see if you can get some clearly images of the animals one a stick image take side on( like the below image)

One of the prettiest Males I've found in the particular locality.
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The habitat where these animals occur have a vast range in temperatures at night in winter the temperatures often reach into the negatives and snowfall does occur from time to time. The days are hot and dry. They will appreciate a decent night time drop and a decent misting in the early morning and late evening but not a soaking a fine mist is more required.
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Re: Sexing B.thamnobates

Postby Solid Snake » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:47 am

Thanks for your opinion/time.

Yes Ive seen that picture(its actually my desktop bg), and that is a beautiful specimen! I can only hope these look remotely like that one!

They dont get aggressive like that one, they either hide, or bite at me. :roll:

I added about 20 more pictures here:http://s618.photobucket.com/albums/tt263/davidfishman/Thamnobates/
and took this video.
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Re: Sexing B.thamnobates

Postby Fooble » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:24 am

Great thanks for the video.
In my opinion the first two are females and the last one is a Male.
They look like very mature specimens hence why their colours seem quite dull.

A nice example of a female in situ :
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Re: Sexing B.thamnobates

Postby Solid Snake » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:22 am

Thanks man. ;)

When you say, "In my opinion the first two are females and the last one is a Male."

Are you referencing the posted photos, or video??

When you say,"They look like very mature specimens hence why their colours seem quite dull."

Do you mean immature? As in young? They are supposedly 3-4 months old or so.

Thanks again.
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